Lets fix the way left centershot on the GT500

[killeminheels]

Guys I have a legitimite question so please answer responsibley. How many people are actually having these problems??? and guys that have gotten bows at "supertuners" was this taken care of there??. This really has me worried. Not the fact that it might be possible that I might have to do it when I get my Elites, tweaking is fun. What worries me is that timing on these bows is critical and may be a little more than the average owner can handle. This process of shimming the cam and swapping the limbs is a big task for guys without all the stuff to do it. Alot of buyers have no dealer to handle this, the shipping back and forth could get time consuming and expensive. It already takes long enough to get these bows anyway so Kristin and everyone else over there is it to much to ask to add a step in the finishing process to measure limb lengths and to triple check the cam shims?? I think this may help. If you guys have already started this, GREAT, at least you guys are trying to give us the best product and this is all we can ask for.

We always strive to have a perfected bow come to you right out of the box. Sometimes, man made materials vary,(limbs, spacers, etc) and have slight differences that can go undetected. The process to change your cam spacers, if you have a press is quite simple, and takes minutes to accomplish if that is in fact the reason for your tuning dilemmas. We are working constantly to make sure every bow that is sent, is ready to shoot from the box.
If tuning isn't something taken care of by your dealer when you bought your Elite bow; or you bought the bow through another source, and do not have a dealer close to you, please give us a call. Arrangements that will not be costly or time consuming can be arranged.
Currently lead times are 10 days two weeks for new 2009 bows, We do our best to not only get you the best product we can, but in a more timely manner than what may have been previously experienced.
Thank you guys for always letting us know about issues so that they can be taken care of and resolved quickly, we want you to be out shooting your bow, enjoying a great product that we care about making for you.
Kristin

[Stevejo]

Pretty awesome customer service right there.

Glad I went with Elite

Thank you

[macilacc]

Very well said Kristin!

[L-train]

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[Elite_Kevin]

There is not an exact spacer that will fit every Elite to make sure the load is equal on each limb tip.

For 80% of the bows a .075-.080 should be on the string side of cam and a .035-.040 on the cable side of cam.
The limbs tip strength can vary from limb to limb so the spacer thickness have to be adjusted on some bows to .090 on string side with a .025-.030 on the cable side.

If you line up the string through the center of the grip bed then look at the alignment of the string to the cam if you see any real "cam lean" which is really limb tip twist, and 99% of the time the top of the top cam will "lean" to the left(RH bow), then you just need to shift the cam toward the cable rod by .010-.020 depending on that set of limbs.
The best way to check is with a laser from cam to cam.


If the limb twist is excessive just have Elite send you some spacers, if it is possible for you to measure the ones you have then it's easier to determine which ones you need.

Sorry for the long post!

[highwaynorth]

Widowmaker and Beefdog,

I laid out $700.00 in 2007 for a Bowtech Tribute.

I immediately tossed the $1.00 cable slide and put on a Simms at about $18.00 because the factory part was junk.

I had to toss the strings and put on Vaportrails for about $65.00 because the factory wouldn't deal with the fact that their dealer ruined my string setting up their bow.

I cant tell you how many phone message I left and e-mails I sent to Bowtech trying to get string and cable lengths and help with tuning.

It was a nightmare.

I have nothing but praise for Elite and the way Kristin and others have helped me with my GT500.

When I called I immediately got someone who could actually help me. No message machines, no unanswered e-mails.

Just people who care about the products they build.

Yes, I have had some tuning issues, but when you can actually talk to the guy who designed the bow and get the help you need, well....thats a brand I believe in.

Proud to be in the Elite family!

Michael

If your dealer ruined your string I think your beef should be with
your dealer not Bowtech. The string wasn't faulty was it?

[mbrown]

If your dealer ruined your string I think your beef should be with
your dealer not Bowtech. The string wasn't faulty was it?

No the string wasn't faulty. What was faulty was the way BowTech strung the dealer and me along for 3 weeks with stories and excuses why they weren't able to ship a simple string.

My dealer wasn't trying to get a free string. They told BowTech that they ruined it and just need to get a replacement. I stood there while they made the call. I followed up with calls of my own and one of the techs at the store called several times.

Yet when I had my son contact BowTech from his town, they assured him that the strings were in stock and if a dealer placed an order for a string it would go right out. That was when I threw in the towel and called Vapor Trails.

I dont know why they would make such an issue over a string, but they did. It made a lasting impression on me.

I still have the bow and I still shoot it. It is a great bow, but I know that if I have an issue with it, I probably will not get the level of service from BowTech that I have gotten from Elite. Based on real world experience.

Your mileage may vary.

Michael

[Cliff Orley]

If you line up the string through the center of the grip bed then look at the alignment of the string to the cam if you see any real "cam lean" which is really limb tip twist, and 99% of the time the top of the top cam will "lean" to the left(RH bow), then you just need to shift the cam toward the cable rod by .010-.020 depending on that set of limbs.
The best way to check is with a laser from cam to cam.

Kevin, do you mean while the bow is at rest ?

[HALFSTEP]

My center shot was running wide as well. I also had some lean at bace height more so on the top cam. I had some spacers already and installed them. I moved the cams closer to the cable gaurd. Now at brace height, my cams are sitting very straight. I checked them with my spot hogg lazer. The cams are near perfect. Now I have a little cam lean at full draw. The lean isn't excessive and I can live with it. The center shot is now between 3/4 and 7/8. The string appears to be in the middle of the grip now. I am going to install another rest, a gkf premier with the tm launcher. I have an octane rest on there now but the bottom bristles are wearing out to fast. I am maxed out with 1/2 turn from bottom at 66 pounds. I had to twist the string a little to shorten the draw. The bow was 1/2" long out of the box. It does have the right cam on it, it is a #2 and should be 29 1/2" but was actually 30" measured on my draw board. I am 29 3/4" so it worked out anyways. I just lost a little poundage but that's okay. I like the bow and think it will be a shooter once I get the bugs worked out.

[BEEFDOG]

There is not an exact spacer that will fit every Elite to make sure the load is equal on each limb tip.

For 80% of the bows a .075-.080 should be on the string side of cam and a .035-.040 on the cable side of cam.
The limbs tip strength can vary from limb to limb so the spacer thickness have to be adjusted on some bows to .090 on string side with a .025-.030 on the cable side.

If you line up the string through the center of the grip bed then look at the alignment of the string to the cam if you see any real "cam lean" which is really limb tip twist, and 99% of the time the top of the top cam will "lean" to the left(RH bow), then you just need to shift the cam toward the cable rod by .010-.020 depending on that set of limbs.
The best way to check is with a laser from cam to cam.


If the limb twist is excessive just have Elite send you some spacers, if it is possible for you to measure the ones you have then it's easier to determine which ones you need.

Sorry for the long post!

Kevin, why can't this last step be done at the factory? Why should this last step fall to the customer? You seem to have the answer for the problem, isn't there a quality control department that can oversee a check list for finished bows before they are sent for distribution?