Has swapping limbs helped those with right tears?

[Pulse76]

Just wondering how many have had success getting rid of their right tear by swapping the limbs from top to bottom. I have a consistent right tear (about 1-1.5") with the bent cable rod and with the stock rod. Never noticed it much, because I walk back tuned and shot field points accurately to 70 yds. My grim reaper expandables also shot very well out of it. I tried shooting my first fixed blades (Slick Tricks) and I really saw how bad the arrow was flying. I'm not talking about a couple of inches off target......my field points will hit x's, but the broadhead went about a foot to the left of the target and totally missed everything and I could see the arrow kicking during flight. I decided to shoot through paper at that point to see what it would look like and immediately noticed a considerable right tear. Tried moving centershot and changing my grip a bunch of different ways, but no improvement. Tried 300 spine, 340 spine and 400 spine with varying weighted tips...still no luck. Had my brother shoot it as well as the owner of an archery shop and still the same right tear. I've searched some of the older posts and saw a lot of folks suggesting to swap the top and bottom limbs. It does look like the top limb is twisting significantly while standing behind the bow at full draw. Does the limb swap usually do the trick? Right now the cable side looks to have some pretty thick shims. Would it help to reverse the shims too? Looking for some input from the tuning gurus on here.

[cmillett79]

I would order a shim kit and new axles maybe to start with . Also it sounds that you have a stiff spine but I also see you have tried the spines as well with no luck . Try a 350 spine cut at 28.5" with a 100grn tip after you double check the shims and axles etc etc . Maybe a limb swap will work

[OutbackMan]

I had the same exact issue w/a Pure recently...flip flopped shims from right to left on the top and bottom and everything tightened up...shot good thru paper, grouped better, and the pre-draw limb twist went away. Good luck.

[z450]

I have found that if you use a bent rod or tilt tamer on the pure it will shoot a very weak spine to get bullet holes. I put a tilt tamer on my pure at 29.5" 81# and it would tear right with a 300, 340, didn't shoot a bullet till I shot a 400 spine arrow. I took the tilt tamer off and bullet hole with a 300 spine. My opinion is the Pure isn't very demanding of a stiff spine arrow. But you also said that you tried all the different spines. I wish you luck on figuring it out.

[Maybee-R]

The thing is if you got lean then start with that. The Pulse and Pure cams use different spacers but if you need to shim it over then Id do it.
Another thing I noticed with mine was once I got rid of the lean, it likes weaker then the Charts spine recommendations. Tilttamer or bent rod either one should actually help with spine choices. But too stiff is still too stiff.
I use a 70 cable side and 60 string side on my Pure. And sometimes swapping the limbs do help. Pm coming.

[cmillett79]

I would order a gt500 shim kit and new axles to start with ,, As of now from reading some posts on gt500 center shots , Start with 035 on the cable side and just shim to fit the string side . Also it sounds that you have a stiff spine but I also see you have tried the spines as well with no luck . Try a 350 spine cut at 28.5" with a 100grn tip after you double check the shims and axles etc etc .

Man I dont know why I was thinking you were shooting a gt500 bud .... I just got finished talking about one to a person about one I and guess it was still on my mind ...

Rick will get you fixed up Im sure

[TEXAS 10PT]

I got to tell you brother that a fixed blade flying that far left and you getting the big right tears through paper is a classic indication of an arrow too stiff. I'm shooting a 300 spine out of my Answer at 29/70 but its 29 3/4" long and I'm using a 180gr broadhead. Both the length and tip weight for my set up makes it softer than 300. I'm probably more like 350-360 in spine. How long are your arrows from the throat to the end and what weight tip are you using? There could be other factors effecting your flight but I have found through the years shooting Elite's that they like a softer rather than stiffer spine. You adding a Tilt Tamer or bent rod allows for an even softer arrow due to eliminating riser torque.

TEXAS

[Wideback]

I was fighting the same battle with my Pulse and went back to the straight rod since i will be in the stand next friday. My 28.5"/62# Pulse CS is at 7/8" shooting perfect bullets with 27" Gold Tip Pro Hunter 75/95 .340 spine arrows with 100 grain tips, which seems stiff. I'm also running .035string/.09cable side shims. I did try swapping limbs because i was curious and after swapping my top cam had scary lean (2oclock/8oclock top cam) so i knew my limbs were the right way to begin with. I will be broadhead tuning this week but i'm not worried about it since i hunted this bow last year and didn't have any issues.

[Magilla]

The dreaded right tear. I had a bad right tear on my Z28 and the only way I could get rid of it was to shim it .102 on the string side and .020 on the cable side then swap the limbs over. This gave me a centershot left of center but acceptable. The bow was shooting unbelievably well with field points and broadheads and could hold its own against any of my bows. Yesterday I changed the cams from No3 29" to No4 28 1/2" and without changing anything else the right tear has come back. I really like my Elites but they are so frustrating sometimes.

[woodbooger]

with people say'n they like soft spine some say stiffer leads me to believe if you get your bow RIGHT the Elites will shoot a variety of spines,