Tilt Tamer

[doubled]

Was a little skeptical at first but after purchasing and installing the Tilt Tamer I am a believer. The setup is relatively easy, the only real issue and this may just be with the Judge as it is a "6 BH is that my cables would rub when I first installed it. This was remedied by swapping the cables making the cable that used to cross over top now on bottom. This did not affect the timing of the bow in the least. Once the Tamer was adjusted for fletching clearance and set to where I would be shooting with it I checked the timing (on a draw board) with and without it installed and nothing changed. No other manufacturer’s specs changed i.e. DW, DL, ATA, BH

Immediately after drawing back the first time there was noticeable difference in the way the bow felt at full draw. It now settles into a neutral position much more naturally and seems smoother in the draw cycle. My first shot was ~"6 right of the bull. What the heck? I moved sight window right till I was hitting dead on with the bull’s eye from 20yds. Then I then came to realize that my sight pins were directly in line and I mean dead center with my rest and string. This has always been a pet peeve of mine that with a Binary cam setup, cam lean causes sight pins to be adjusted to the left slightly for a RH shooter. I owned a BT 82nd Airborne prior to the Elite Judge and it setup the same way. I know you naysayers out there will say it was caused by my anchor point, etc. This is not the case it is caused by cam lean. There is just no way to get around it given a binary cam setup. UNTIL NOW that is, the Tilt Tamer is a great product say goodbye to cam lean forever!
It is definitely something that improves your bow not only by accuracy and shootability but wear and tear as well. With the Tamer installed the lateral tension that was once applied to your cables by the stock cable guard is now greatly reduced which in turn prolongs the life of your bow. Less twist on the limbs, cams, axles and bearings makes for longer lasting components. I would not be surprised if you start seeing Tilt Tamers or variations of it installed from the factory on future bow models, it just makes sense.

By the way I am a customer and in no way, shape, or form associated with Joe Marzullo or Tilt Tamer. However Joe, if you come out with some product swag i.e. ball cap, shirt, etc.
I am not below accepting a token of appreciation for the review here.... :-)

[Magilla]

Thanks for the review, your observations are similar to others who have tried the "Tilt Tamer". I have ordered one from Joe and am quite excited at the thought of my XLR shooting even better than it does now.

[archer58inPA]

Thanks for the info.
I have one coming for my Judge also.

[rhodeislandhntr]

I have been reading all the reviews about this product and will order a few as soon as funds allow, thanks for the review.

[Daniel Boone]

I saw one on a friend of mine who is works in bowshop in Tulsa area at a large bow shop and he shoots pro class. He had one on his Contender and I saw it in action. Its got to help for sure.
DB

[ba3darcher]

I have also seen these. I might be way off base, but it appears to me the cables are just be moved closer to the string, thus reducing torque.This can also be accomplished using an offset cable rod that came on bows years ago and that is now on the new Tour bow. On bows I have shot previously that came with the offset cable rod I was always told to turn the rod so the cables are as close as you can get to the arrow fletching without touching, which also helped in reducing torque.

[woodbooger]

I have also seen these. I might be way off base, but it appears to me the cables are just be moved closer to the string, thus reducing torque.This can also be accomplished using an offset cable rod that came on bows years ago and that is now on the new Tour bow. On bows I have shot previously that came with the offset cable rod I was always told to turn the rod so the cables are as close as you can get to the arrow fletching without touching, which also helped in reducing torque.

yep but this looks to be even better(maybe) Chad's got 1 ordered!

[oldbuck]

Hello,
An offset cable guard rod helps, no doubt. The big difference is that provides a same cable offset throughout the draw cycle. The loads on the bows cables change from brace height to full draw so the cams are tilted less at brace and allot more at full draw.
Example of cable loads, a 70# bow may have 160# at brace height and almost 400# at full draw.
This large variation of cable loads causes the cams to tilt at a variable rate which translates into torque to the bow/archer. By varing the cable offset I have created a consistent load on the cams, creating a cam that tilts a small amount, but most importantly, virtually the same through the draw cycle.
This creates a bow with esentially no torque.
Thanks, I hope this helps.
oldbuck

I have also seen these. I might be way off base, but it appears to me the cables are just be moved closer to the string, thus reducing torque.This can also be accomplished using an offset cable rod that came on bows years ago and that is now on the new Tour bow. On bows I have shot previously that came with the offset cable rod I was always told to turn the rod so the cables are as close as you can get to the arrow fletching without touching, which also helped in reducing torque.

[ba3darcher]

Hello,
An offset cable guard rod helps, no doubt. The big difference is that provides a same cable offset throughout the draw cycle. The loads on the bows cables change from brace height to full draw so the cams are tilted less at brace and allot more at full draw.
Example of cable loads, a 70# bow may have 160# at brace height and almost 400# at full draw.
This large variation of cable loads causes the cams to tilt at a variable rate which translates into torque to the bow/archer. By varing the cable offset I have created a consistent load on the cams, creating a cam that tilts a small amount, but most importantly, virtually the same through the draw cycle.
This creates a bow with esentially no torque.
Thanks, I hope this helps.
oldbuck

Oldbuck-

Thanks for the information you provided. I can see how it can make some difference

[L-train]

Was a little skeptical at first but after purchasing and installing the Tilt Tamer I am a believer. The setup is relatively easy, the only real issue and this may just be with the Judge as it is a "6 BH is that my cables would rub when I first installed it. This was remedied by swapping the cables making the cable that used to cross over top now on bottom. This did not affect the timing of the bow in the least. Once the Tamer was adjusted for fletching clearance and set to where I would be shooting with it I checked the timing (on a draw board) with and without it installed and nothing changed. No other manufacturer’s specs changed i.e. DW, DL, ATA, BH

Immediately after drawing back the first time there was noticeable difference in the way the bow felt at full draw. It now settles into a neutral position much more naturally and seems smoother in the draw cycle. My first shot was ~"6 right of the bull. What the heck? I moved sight window right till I was hitting dead on with the bull’s eye from 20yds. Then I then came to realize that my sight pins were directly in line and I mean dead center with my rest and string. This has always been a pet peeve of mine that with a Binary cam setup, cam lean causes sight pins to be adjusted to the left slightly for a RH shooter. I owned a BT 82nd Airborne prior to the Elite Judge and it setup the same way. I know you naysayers out there will say it was caused by my anchor point, etc. This is not the case it is caused by cam lean. There is just no way to get around it given a binary cam setup. UNTIL NOW that is, the Tilt Tamer is a great product say goodbye to cam lean forever!
It is definitely something that improves your bow not only by accuracy and shootability but wear and tear as well. With the Tamer installed the lateral tension that was once applied to your cables by the stock cable guard is now greatly reduced which in turn prolongs the life of your bow. Less twist on the limbs, cams, axles and bearings makes for longer lasting components. I would not be surprised if you start seeing Tilt Tamers or variations of it installed from the factory on future bow models, it just makes sense.

By the way I am a customer and in no way, shape, or form associated with Joe Marzullo or Tilt Tamer. However Joe, if you come out with some product swag i.e. ball cap, shirt, etc.
I am not below accepting a token of appreciation for the review here.... :-)

Good review.
Ive now got well over a thousand shots with mine. No sign of wear or loosening parts, I did go back to my 08.5 suppress stop, its softer rubber and quieter, I just trimmed of some material for clearance for the cables.