FOB Performance

[FullDraw]

I think the performance outweighs if you think they are ugly...

[BLOWTHRU]

Ugly ain't even word enough 4 a FOB...No Fob 4 me...
Marco Low profile 4" is an unbeatable hunting vane!

[IA Monsterbuck]

I tried the FOBs. To be honest I saw no performance improvement over blazers out to 40 yards.

What I didn't like about FOBs:

I broke two of them the first time I shot them. You can't shoot groups with them or you will bust them up. I like to shoot groups, I can shoot tight groups with vanes and the vanes will give but knock a FOB and it breaks.

Can't see using them for 3D. Even Paul the inventor and owners says you probably should take along some fletched arrows for the closer targets so you don't get them broken by other shooters. Why would I want to have to shoot two kinds of arrows?

Plus they can block the target. Not sure too many people are going to like having to shoot at a 12 ring with a plastic FOB blocking it. Not sure I would want to have to shoot behind one of them, although I think I probably would find humor in busting a few.

I stuck them in my 3D quiver. Usually carry a couple of arrows in each tube. With the FOBs one FOB generally sits on top of the other and I could very easily see losing some of them on a course as they pushed loose and popped off. I'm a little leary of trusting them for hunting too with nothing keeping them in place and secure but the compression nock.

Looks. Not really a big factor for me like it is for some but IMO they don't look as nice a arrows with vanes.

Bottom line I just didn't see any noticeable performance advantage and I wouldn't be saving any money at all. I fletch my own arrows so I can definitely see replacing a bunch of busted FOBs costing me a lot more than vanes and glue. Plus, to be honest with you I kind of enjoy fletching my arrows.

[Rattler]

Not knocking in any way but here are some of my responses:

I tried the FOBs. To be honest I saw no performance improvement over blazers out to 40 yards. - Have you shot themin a good crosswind compared to blazers? In my tests the blazers caust more aire and fishtailed. 4" vanes are even worse. I only saw about a 1-2" space (FOBs hit higher) due to the minimal lift/stabilization the ring wing establishes out to 40

What I didn't like about FOBs:

I broke two of them the first time I shot them. You can't shoot groups with them or you will bust them up. I like to shoot groups, I can shoot tight groups with vanes and the vanes will give but knock a FOB and it breaks.
He is coming out with some unbreakable FOBs. I should be getting some to test soon.

Can't see using them for 3D. Even Paul the inventor and owners says you probably should take along some fletched arrows for the closer targets so you don't get them broken by other shooters. Why would I want to have to shoot two kinds of arrows? I see your point, but he invented these for primairly hunting.

Plus they can block the target. Not sure too many people are going to like having to shoot at a 12 ring with a plastic FOB blocking it. Not sure I would want to have to shoot behind one of them, although I think I probably would find humor in busting a few. It is friggin awesome to watch people whine about the space being covered! Breakig a few to me is no big deal...but I can see where it would be for the avg consumer.

I stuck them in my 3D quiver. Usually carry a couple of arrows in each tube. With the FOBs one FOB generally sits on top of the other and I could very easily see losing some of them on a course as they pushed loose and popped off. I'm a little leary of trusting them for hunting too with nothing keeping them in place and secure but the compression nock. How long does it take to put them on...like 5 seconds? Keep them off...but once again they WERE invented for hunting purposes.

Looks. Not really a big factor for me like it is for some but IMO they don't look as nice a arrows with vanes.To each their own...I like being thecenter of attention and having people ask me about them on the range

Bottom line I just didn't see any noticeable performance advantage and I wouldn't be saving any money at all. I fletch my own arrows so I can definitely see replacing a bunch of busted FOBs costing me a lot more than vanes and glue. Plus, to be honest with you I kind of enjoy fletching my arrows.

I did shoot a 299 45X 5 spot yesterday with them. THis was my 8th time to shoot 5 spot and I did it with my SISTER's bow! I love their performance!

[Bucks n Rubbers]

I read another thread in which people with GTO's were having problems with string pinch on the FOB. I am wondering if this problem will happen with my 28" DL. Also heard that new FOB's may be in the making which will be positioned further up the arrow shaft to prevent facial contact and String pinch. Any truth to this?

[IA Monsterbuck]

Not knocking in any way but here are some of my responses:

No, I did not specifically shoot them in a strong cross wind. I don't dispute that there may be less drift with a FOB due to a shorter side profile.

Unbreakable would be a great improvement and I may be willing to try them again if they could truly be unbreakable. This would address my biggest complaint as they currently are pretty easily broken.

Wonder if there has been any discussion about their use in 3D? Are they allowed in all the major 3D venues? I could see them possibly getting banned from competition if some of the top guys complained.

I use the exact same set-up for hunting and 3D, I shoot 3D because it's fun but also to become as proficient as possible with my hunting equipment. That's why I don't want to have to shoot vanes at close targets and FOBS at the further ones.

If I ever get my GTO I'll already be the center of attention, don't need FOBS for that.

Great shooting! I doubt that the FOBS are the reason you shot well though. Even Paul and the FOB fanatics don't claim they are going to make much difference shooting 20 yard spots indoors.

Again I'm not saying the FOBS won't function as fletching I just think in my opinion the disadvantages outweigh the advantages for my circumstances. Your opinion may vary, variety is a good thing. Feathers, 4 inch vanes, Blazers, Quickspins, FOBS, etc, etc...shoot whatever you think is the best for you.

[Rattler]

I read another thread in which people with GTO's were having problems with string pinch on the FOB. I am wondering if this problem will happen with my 28" DL. Also heard that new FOB's may be in the making which will be positioned further up the arrow shaft to prevent facial contact and String pinch. Any truth to this?

It is on the drawing table. but those molds he uses cost a TON!

THey worked out of my GTO fine. If you do experience string pinch, just tie in nocksets above and below the nock then tie your loop. This will eliminate any pinch

[Rattler]

I use the exact same set-up for hunting and 3D, I shoot 3D because it's fun but also to become as proficient as possible with my hunting equipment.

You shoot Broadheads in 3D tournaments?














yes I am being a smart azz

[IA Monsterbuck]

You shoot Broadheads in 3D tournaments?

yes I am being a smart azz

[$mitty05]

has anyone had any trouble with them splitting the ends of your arrow shafts? like on an angled pass through or anything like that