Before you start tuning your bow

[Maybee-R]

Question for you B. Elite lists a 1/4" tolerance on the limbs or ATA.
Does this not make the string/cables length need to vary?

This is when we see the threads saying my bow maxed out at 69lbs. I cant figure it out. Um twist it up. toss the spec sizes out the door because the limb deflections on that particular bow is wacked and needs more then say another one did. Same as if its maxed at 74lbs..Untwist it or add to the string if the draw is long. either way you need the draw weight, length and cams in sync with each other first. You can adjust timing once you have a starting point.
To everyone else its a starting point and a good idea to spec the string and cables if your lost. But not two bows will be identical. Limbs very and reason for the difference or allowances Elite states. + or - 1/4 ATA and 1/8th for brace.

Also want to add 6 twist wont undo a serving. I like to not untwist but sometimes its a half too. If I can Ill add to make any adjustments. JMO!

[bfoot]

This is when we see the threads saying my bow maxed out at 69lbs. I cant figure it out. Um twist it up. toss the spec sizes out the door because the limb deflections on that particular bow is wacked and needs more then say another one did. Same as if its maxed at 74lbs..Untwist it or add to the string if the draw is long. either way you need the draw weight, length and cams in sync with each other first. You can adjust timing once you have a starting point.
To everyone else its a starting point and a good idea to spec the string and cables if your lost. But not two bows will be identical. Limbs very and reason for the difference or allowances Elite states. + or - 1/4 ATA and 1/8th for brace.

Also want to add 6 twist wont undo a serving. I like to not untwist but sometimes its a half too. If I can Ill add to make any adjustments. JMO!

I looked at every bow Elite has made on the tune charts and not one said plus or minus 1/4 inch. That said, your point is well made. String and cable specs do not change with draw weight. Again, check the tune charts.

[L-train]

I looked at every bow Elite has made on the tune charts and not one said plus or minus 1/4 inch. That said, your point is well made. String and cable specs do not change with draw weight. Again, check the tune charts.

Not sure what happened to my last post, but there is a 1/4" tolerance, and string lengths can and DO vary, Im quite offended that my advice is labeled ridiculous, I guarantee Ive helped tune more bows on the internet than most. Again why measure under 100 lbs, the cables have 3-4 times that weight on them at full draw...you know, where the bows are tuned at.
I understand measuring them if your totally lost, but DL, DW, and where peak weight hits is ALL that is needed to KNOW absolutely which way things need adjusted. Just tryin to help people not waste unnecessary time, but hey, I strive to be efficient.

[Maybee-R]

I looked at every bow Elite has made on the tune charts and not one said plus or minus 1/4 inch. That said, your point is well made. String and cable specs do not change with draw weight. Again, check the tune charts.

Use to see it on all the new tune charts that come with the bow. Its been this way from 06. Im not going to argue with you but Im almost sure its never changed.
If it has its more then likely from being over looked. Everyone knows you cant have two bows Identical.

[woodbooger]

if your having trouble with getting things right measuring string and cabels only takes a few minutes faster than twisting and un twisting if your just starting to do your own! Train most know you know what your doing but when first getting started measuring isnt a bad place to start! its by no means a fix all!! just my 1 cent thats all I got, just bought more gummy's for.. well you know.....logic

[L-train]

Fair nuff, I just see measuring the harness as the most often advice for tuning. I think Elite wouldnt have the reputation of not meeting IBO and being a little louder than other bows if people looked at tuning the factors that make the most difference., The chart explains what cause and effect differing harness lengths make.

[bfoot]

Not sure what happened to my last post, but there is a 1/4" tolerance, and string lengths can and DO vary, Im quite offended that my advice is labeled ridiculous, I guarantee Ive helped tune more bows on the internet than most. Again why measure under 100 lbs, the cables have 3-4 times that weight on them at full draw...you know, where the bows are tuned at.
I understand measuring them if your totally lost, but DL, DW, and where peak weight hits is ALL that is needed to KNOW absolutely which way things need adjusted. Just tryin to help people not waste unnecessary time, but hey, I strive to be efficient.

I do apologize if it came across that I was referring to you personally when i said it was ridiculous when advice was given to twist or untwist string or cables when one did not know if the string was speced correctly.

Though we have never met, I have nothing but respect for your knowledge of Elite bows and desire to help other less knowledgeable archers, I, in fact, have benefited on more than on one occasion from your advice.

So, please accept my sincere apology and know I certainly was not referring to you personally. In retrospect, my comment was probably reckless and could have been stated in a more reasonable fashion.

bob

PS -still think it is a bad idea to suggest adding or removing twists once a bow is mucked up and not speced .

[L-train]

I do apologize if it came across that I was referring to you personally when i said it was ridiculous when advice was given to twist or untwist string or cables when one did not know if the string was speced correctly.

Though we have never met, I have nothing but respect for your knowledge of Elite bows and desire to help other less knowledgeable archers, I, in fact, have benefited on more than on one occasion from your advice.

So, please accept my sincere apology and know I certainly was not referring to you personally. In retrospect, my comment was probably reckless and could have been stated in a more reasonable fashion.

bob

PS -still think it is a bad idea to suggest adding or removing twists once a bow is mucked up and not speced .

Apology accepted and I apologize, I tend to get a bit reckless and unreasonable too.