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Maybee-R
06-20-2008, 10:11 PM
I seen in Bowhunter an article about deer being color blind. does that include Elk?
I have seen Elk walk out of the brush while I was setting still on a stump with hunter orange on and they turned and looked right at me. Eyes swelled up and run away. The wind was in my favor also.
sounds dumb but I was wondering if it was because of the color or eye contact or what?:thumb:
tim doll
06-20-2008, 11:38 PM
I went to a camo pattern blaze orange and have had pretty good success.
TEXAS 10PT
06-20-2008, 11:49 PM
Aren't all these animals basically in the same family? I believe they are called ungulates or something like that. If so I would think their eyesight is the same. The color blue is what I understand is the only color they can distinguish.

TEXAS
Maybee-R
06-21-2008, 12:02 AM
Aren't all these animals basically in the same family? I believe they are called ungulates or something like that. If so I would think their eyesight is the same. The color blue is what I understand is the only color they can distinguish.

TEXAS
You may be right. I wonder how they can tell anyway? should of paid more attention in science class. and spelling because I was sitting not setting.:peepwall:
Oregonbowhunter
06-21-2008, 12:47 AM
They way I understand it is they don't see colors but what they do see will appear darker or brighter to them, so even though they don't see color, blaze orange would possibly be a brighter white to them. Also if you were on the stump but had nothing behind you they can still make out your sillouette (pardon the spelling but you get my meaning). The hole reason behind camo is to break up our outline otherwise T-shirts and blue jeans would be the standard dress.
OBH
HoPaLONg
06-21-2008, 02:23 AM
this might be able to ans. a few of you questions.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060912122248AAQubzT

sheep see color?
Maybee-R
06-21-2008, 07:47 AM
this might be able to ans. a few of you questions.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060912122248AAQubzT

sheep see color?
Thanks! that was interesting. the part about green and red post was funny but I bet its true. mostly from pressure and Human presence.
BoCoMo
06-21-2008, 11:02 AM
According to charles alshemier from deer and deer hunting. Deer species can see yellows and blues. They did a study w/ yellow and red apples in the snow. The deer walked out and went straight to the yellow apples while passing up the red ones.
Maybe the yellow ones had more of a odor, i dont know.
L-train
06-22-2008, 03:15 PM
Pronghorn is the only species we hunt that can see color, and Ive also heard the blue yellow thing.
TX Rattlesnake
06-22-2008, 03:23 PM
this might be able to ans. a few of you questions.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060912122248AAQubzT

sheep see color?

I have been sitting perfectly still in a cedar bush with full camo on and had deer upwind look directly at me. After that I read something on UV brightners and started looking for stuff that had NO UV brightners. Have not had that happen again. I know this subject can be like a opening a can of worms, but don't most of us build our beliefs from experiences?
Maybee-R
06-22-2008, 07:04 PM
It very well could of been UV in my clothes. I never have paid much attention to that before. But I did read about it before.
HoPaLONg
06-22-2008, 08:40 PM
i use non uv detergent on my camo. too bad i cant find and "contacts" to put in my eyes to turn the whole thing black......... look insane and prob work well too.
TX Rattlesnake
06-22-2008, 08:51 PM
i use non uv detergent on my camo. too bad i cant find and "contacts" to put in my eyes to turn the whole thing black......... look insane and prob work well too.

Reminds me of the TV show "Supernatural".
Rattler
06-23-2008, 05:57 AM
My buddy has his masters in wildlife biology and phd in genetics, and he says they see some tones of blue and yellow, but mostly black and white, and any animal in which their eyes glow at night when white light is present on them glow, are the same way. I know birds eyes dont glow, and therefore they see color. UV brightners thing is true too.
ntypicl11
06-24-2008, 11:55 AM
I think it was this months Feild and Stream addressed this issue. I will double check when I get home. Blue jeans are supposed to be the worst because of the UV's that are reflected from the blue denim. That isn't from F and S but makes alot of sense.
KARBON
07-03-2008, 11:25 AM
Granted I'm a chemist but I'm a biology major (minor in wildlife/natural science). So this is a blend of my education and what I do at work.

Break up your outline and use uv (optical brighteners)free detergent and control your wind.

The additives, fluorescent whitening agents cause your gear to appear brighter and more vibrant in color to the naked eye but it also cause them to stand out UV wise (hit most close with a black light and you will see).
These additives fluoresce BLUE...

here's a link to a common optical brightener and info on what they do. We use this in the coatings and adhesives areas to help fight yellowing to the naked eye and mark clear coatings during the printing process.

http://www.ciba.com/optical1.pdf
TX Rattlesnake
07-03-2008, 11:37 AM
Great info Karbon.
L-train
07-03-2008, 03:53 PM
+1 on thanks for the info
Man I read a bunch of that and looked down and sure enough there is a pocket protector in my shirt.:p
DOAGuide
07-03-2008, 04:04 PM
They way I understand it is they don't see colors but what they do see will appear darker or brighter to them, so even though they don't see color, blaze orange would possibly be a brighter white to them. Also if you were on the stump but had nothing behind you they can still make out your sillouette (pardon the spelling but you get my meaning). The hole reason behind camo is to break up our outline otherwise T-shirts and blue jeans would be the standard dress.
OBH


This is my understanding also. Bright colors will stand out. They won't see the color, just distinguish between dark and bright.