Tell me what you think. Arrow Selection

[Deer30]

I shoot the XT synergy. It always seems to me I get a left tear.

Bow is 61.4 pounds and 27.5 draw
My arrows either being a Victory 400, Lightspeed 400s or HCA 35-70 arrow ( I have tried them all)
The arrows are between 25-26 inches bare shaft. The Lightspeeds fly the best and paper tune the best.

I think my arrows are way to stiff, that is why I am having such a hard time getting these to paper tune. I have move rest, nock ect..

I think I need a weaker arrow. I am just afraid of going to weak and waisting another 80-100 bucks.

What would be a perfectly spined arrow and weighs around 300 grains completed w/100gr. point for my setup? I just want to be able to shoot consistent bullet holes, I don't care what kind of arrow I shoot as long as they fly true.

[Deer30]

Ok I did some testing I cut one of the speed pros 35-75 to 28" instead of 26" and put a 125gr. FT on it instead of a 100gr. and guess what perfect bullet hole every time. I think I have my self a stiffness problem.

What do you guys think?

[shootstraight]

Glad we could help :D

In reality there's nothing wrong with what you did, I've had to weaken an arrow before by going witha heavier tip or using a longer shaft. Thing is though that bow will shoot heavier arrows, I'm shooting 424 grain fmj's out of mine and perfect holes, I'm sure if I went heavier it would do the same. I've found the rest needs to be further left than realized and I need a little inside pressure on my grip so as to not torque the bow.

[BAArcher]

My Synergy used to like "Stiffer" arrows. See if you can get a couple of Lightspeed 500's (they are pretty inexpensive) and try.

I gave up on paper tuning long ago. Seems like after I was getting a perfect hole, I would hit the range and finish off with some "walk back" tuning and make a few more minor adjustments to get things perfect (out to 60 yards for me). When I was satisified and it grouped well (some long distance group tuning as well), if I went back to paper......no more perfect bullet hole! :eek:

[Deer30]

That was my next option Lightspeed 500s cut to 26" I bet those would stiffen up and be almost perfect. It looks kind of weird shooting an arrow that sticks out in front of the riser an inch or so

[BAArcher]

Shootstraight mentioned form in his post....Don't overlook this before you start chasing your tail! Let someone else shoot your bow through the paper and see what you get.

[Deer30]

I figured it out and I think it is called chubby cheek syndrome. When I shoot the bow just pulling it back and shooting it, perfect bullet hole. When I bring the string in to anchor it, I get a tear to left. It is my chubby cheek pushing on the string.

Anyone have suggestion? HaHa lose weight

[BAArcher]

I figured it out and I think it is called chubby cheek syndrome. When I shoot the bow just pulling it back and shooting it, perfect bullet hole. When I bring the string in to anchor it, I get a tear to left. It is my chubby cheek pushing on the string.

Anyone have suggestion? HaHa lose weight

Its your anchor point. Do you shoot off the string of use a loop? What kind of release are you using?

[BAArcher]

Also, if your draw is too long, it will lead to torquing. When I lock up to shoot, my string "always" touches the same spot in the front of my nose. My second nuckle on my release hand (shooting a trigger release) always rides in the same spot between my ear lobe and jaw. Having a proper fitting bow and using consistant anchor points will eliminate some form issues and increase your accuracy.

[Michael]

Light speed 500's are weaker than the 400's. If you buy different arrows, be sure you look at the specs first. A Victory 500 is stiffer than the 400, but Easton is opposite.

You can also try to move your vanes further forward, if that is what is contacting your face.

[TEXAS 10PT]

Funny thing, my 62lb Synergy likes shooting 340 spine ACC's and they paper tune perfect. You would think that I need to shoot 400 spine arrows at that weight but I go with what works.

TEXAS

[Rattler]

Definately make the 400's longer to weaken the spine, 28"-29" and with a 100gr point you should be fine. I shoot 70lbs with a 400 spine but cut to 27.5, 100gr tip, and an arrow wrap, it makes the arrow spine out to around 360-370 which is perfect in all my testing. 27.5 is the breaking point on 400 spine when shooting a 100gr tip.

[Jerry/NJ]

Email me and we'll discuss some options :)

[Deer30]

I found the perfect arrow after shooting a bunch. Easton Redline 520 cut to 25 7/8 raw shaft. Bullet hole every time. 344 grains at 60# it shot 285fps at 27.5" draw. I started at a about 27.5 inches and worked my way down. It was interesting to watch the tear get smaller and smaller as the arrow stiffened. It is crazy accurate now. W/ a 308 grain victory it shot 300fps at 60# and 27.5" draw.