NHNS4
05-26-2012, 10:03 AM
First off a Big thanks goes out to TAZ archery's Tim for allowing Steve and I to take over his range for the day. Second goes out to Steve for having the connections to allow us to have more than enough stablizers to test.
These trials were looked at through a hunters point of view.
Some of the Criteria I look for when choosing a Stab are Vibration Dampening, Weight, Balance (how it holds on target) and Adjust-ability.
Bow Used for these tests was the Elite Answer.
Disclaimer- These are my Opinions and I am not affiliated with any of the companies that where tested:pat:.
First Ill start off with the Stokerized SS1s and the Doinker Tactical
These are great for the hunters who like to keep quiver on the bow.
Vibration damping:
When the Bare SS1 was shot against the SS1 with added weights and dampeners I could definitely see the difference between the too. Bare the SS1 can be used more as a way to offest your quiver, it did little to reduce what Vibration was in the bow before hand.
When the Saturn Weight, Saturn Dampeners, and bowjax where added to the SS1 there was a definite reduction in vibration. These accessories can be purchased through your local Stokerized Dealer.
Similar in the makeup of these stabs is the Doinker Tactical. It has build in Dampeners which cut down on the vibration. It can be adjusted in many different ways which allows the user to fine tune this stab to their liking. Examples could be A user who only carries 3 arrows may want the smaller version Tactical to to less weight needed to balance the bow as oppose to a user who may carry 7 arrows. They may need a greater amount of weight on the opposing side of the bow to help balance.
It would be a tough choice If i where to pick one to use in the woods. My quiver comes off when Im in the tree. They both cut down on vibe if the dampeners are applied to the SS1, both are very adjustable but that edge may go slightly to Doinker. Either one I don't think you can go wrong.
Next Up Paradigm, Vendetta, and Doinker Hammer Style Stabs.
These were the Stabs I wanted to Test the most because they intrigued me.
These are all a little on the heavier side, But that is what I found I preferred today.
Vibration control and adjustability. One stab stood out above the rest in these tests. That was Doinker. They have built in Dampeners on theirs and the bars on the Doinker can be adjusted in many different ways compared to Paradigm and Vendetta. The Paradigm and Vendetta's head can also be adjusted in multiple directions but the head itself is less adjustable when compared to the Doinker.
As you can see in the picture below the doinker head itself can also be adjusted in many different ways.http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss181/sschuckxnorris/5c1fb20b.jpg
All three stabs held on the target extremely well, but the Vendetta and Paradigm did little to dampen Vibration. I feel that if I added some bowjax or Limbsaver dampers to either that vibration would decrease.
Of the 3 there is one that stood above the rest (and I took this one home to test it out at longer ranges) and that was the Doinker.
It met and exceeded my expectations for these style stabs. For the 3d archer who isn't necessarily looking for the Vibe Free bow any of these 3 stabs would be great... Me, liking as little vibe as possible I would choose Doinker, I would not have to add anything to it to have it meet what I am looking for in a stab.
Bernies X-Rod with the standard weight and the adjustable Offset Weight.
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss181/sschuckxnorris/6febb79a.jpg
These stabs had a general consensus among everyone who tried them and they echoed my thoughts exactly... They hold on the target well. But they seemed to add vibration to everyones bow, Not just Mine. Which was weird because they come with Bowjax on them, and Bowjax seems to always do a great job of cutting vibe on whatever they are put on. Aside from the fact that is balanced well, I did not shoot either of these much because of the added vibration they gave mine, and every other archers bow. (and to be honest we had a total of 6 people seriously trying all the stabs.)
The next group of Stabs shot where the Doinker 6EH, Paradigm with the Black and Red Wood, Stokerized EV1, Bstinger with the Sims Vibration dampener, Octane and Dead Center Archery
All of these stabs were shorter than I use So i looked at them strictly from a vibration standpoint. All noticeable dampened vibration except the Dead Center Stab and the Octane Stab. I think this is attributed to the fact that the other stabs where all heavier in general. Since Dead Center and Octane where so Light I felt it did nothing for my bow.
This group of stabs would be great for the archer who does not like longer stabs, but that is looking for some reduction in vibration.
Paradigm Timber Series, Stokerized Hunter, Doinker EDSH11, Doinker Dish, and Doinker Multirod Hunter 10
All of these stabs were similar to what I have used in the past few years of hunting. (Stokerized Hunter 10")
The Timber Series Actually Surpised me. Possibly because of the Look of it in itself and the fact that they wil have a black and purple avaible down the road and it would look sick with my Insanity. But it held extremely well on the target and was not to light. The stokerized hunter with nothing on it did little cut down vibration and felt to light for my liking. With a Saturn Weight and Saturn Dampener added it fit was I am used to liking. Vibration was reduced and It held on the targe much better.
Doinker EDSH11. Echoes what has been said above with the prior 2 stabs, but may have a slight edge in cutting out the most vibration.
Doinker Dish. Hard to find something that sticks out above the other stab mentioned aside from the fact that I just dont like the looks of these. They work but im just not into the look of these. (That is Me, You may like the looks)
Doinker Multirod Hunter. This is the only Doinker I shot that did not impress me. Weight and balance was just fine but there was a weird Vibe with this stab. I think the Vibration came from the individual rods that make up this stablizer.
Half V bars that where tested where the Stokerized and the X stab GK sent Karbon, Sorry dont remember the name right now...Getting late lol
These both worked Similar to the SS1 and Tactical but they keep the weight more towards the back of the bow, and are "generally" used with longer stabs up front. Both Helped balance the bows fine, and it was a tossup at to which I would choose since this was the first time I had had this style on my bow ever. With the Dampeners on the Stokerized they both matched up pretty evenly but the adjustability of the stokerized gave it a slight edge. They got the edge because if needed you could add weight or dampeners to them where as with the other stab you could not.
One stab I did not really get into was the SOS. This one was weird. For my bow it did not do much, but 2lunger brought 2 bows with him today. One bow he did not notice much, the other he could definitly tell it cut down on the vibe. Guess Stabs are kind of like bows, its more about what you are looking for than anything. The above statements where made through what I was looking for in a Stab. My likes as dislikes may fall in line with what your looking for in a stab, but that is all up you.
If I had to Pick one company to suggest a new archery to look into if they where in the market for a Stabilizer The Overall Winner would be Doinker. They only had one stab I was not to fond of but in general they exceeded what I was looking for in stabilizers, with Stokerized coming in a close Second place.
Thanks to all the companys that were involved and Thanks to those who came out to lend us their opinion on the Stablizers as well.
These trials were looked at through a hunters point of view.
Some of the Criteria I look for when choosing a Stab are Vibration Dampening, Weight, Balance (how it holds on target) and Adjust-ability.
Bow Used for these tests was the Elite Answer.
Disclaimer- These are my Opinions and I am not affiliated with any of the companies that where tested:pat:.
First Ill start off with the Stokerized SS1s and the Doinker Tactical
These are great for the hunters who like to keep quiver on the bow.
Vibration damping:
When the Bare SS1 was shot against the SS1 with added weights and dampeners I could definitely see the difference between the too. Bare the SS1 can be used more as a way to offest your quiver, it did little to reduce what Vibration was in the bow before hand.
When the Saturn Weight, Saturn Dampeners, and bowjax where added to the SS1 there was a definite reduction in vibration. These accessories can be purchased through your local Stokerized Dealer.
Similar in the makeup of these stabs is the Doinker Tactical. It has build in Dampeners which cut down on the vibration. It can be adjusted in many different ways which allows the user to fine tune this stab to their liking. Examples could be A user who only carries 3 arrows may want the smaller version Tactical to to less weight needed to balance the bow as oppose to a user who may carry 7 arrows. They may need a greater amount of weight on the opposing side of the bow to help balance.
It would be a tough choice If i where to pick one to use in the woods. My quiver comes off when Im in the tree. They both cut down on vibe if the dampeners are applied to the SS1, both are very adjustable but that edge may go slightly to Doinker. Either one I don't think you can go wrong.
Next Up Paradigm, Vendetta, and Doinker Hammer Style Stabs.
These were the Stabs I wanted to Test the most because they intrigued me.
These are all a little on the heavier side, But that is what I found I preferred today.
Vibration control and adjustability. One stab stood out above the rest in these tests. That was Doinker. They have built in Dampeners on theirs and the bars on the Doinker can be adjusted in many different ways compared to Paradigm and Vendetta. The Paradigm and Vendetta's head can also be adjusted in multiple directions but the head itself is less adjustable when compared to the Doinker.
As you can see in the picture below the doinker head itself can also be adjusted in many different ways.http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss181/sschuckxnorris/5c1fb20b.jpg
All three stabs held on the target extremely well, but the Vendetta and Paradigm did little to dampen Vibration. I feel that if I added some bowjax or Limbsaver dampers to either that vibration would decrease.
Of the 3 there is one that stood above the rest (and I took this one home to test it out at longer ranges) and that was the Doinker.
It met and exceeded my expectations for these style stabs. For the 3d archer who isn't necessarily looking for the Vibe Free bow any of these 3 stabs would be great... Me, liking as little vibe as possible I would choose Doinker, I would not have to add anything to it to have it meet what I am looking for in a stab.
Bernies X-Rod with the standard weight and the adjustable Offset Weight.
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss181/sschuckxnorris/6febb79a.jpg
These stabs had a general consensus among everyone who tried them and they echoed my thoughts exactly... They hold on the target well. But they seemed to add vibration to everyones bow, Not just Mine. Which was weird because they come with Bowjax on them, and Bowjax seems to always do a great job of cutting vibe on whatever they are put on. Aside from the fact that is balanced well, I did not shoot either of these much because of the added vibration they gave mine, and every other archers bow. (and to be honest we had a total of 6 people seriously trying all the stabs.)
The next group of Stabs shot where the Doinker 6EH, Paradigm with the Black and Red Wood, Stokerized EV1, Bstinger with the Sims Vibration dampener, Octane and Dead Center Archery
All of these stabs were shorter than I use So i looked at them strictly from a vibration standpoint. All noticeable dampened vibration except the Dead Center Stab and the Octane Stab. I think this is attributed to the fact that the other stabs where all heavier in general. Since Dead Center and Octane where so Light I felt it did nothing for my bow.
This group of stabs would be great for the archer who does not like longer stabs, but that is looking for some reduction in vibration.
Paradigm Timber Series, Stokerized Hunter, Doinker EDSH11, Doinker Dish, and Doinker Multirod Hunter 10
All of these stabs were similar to what I have used in the past few years of hunting. (Stokerized Hunter 10")
The Timber Series Actually Surpised me. Possibly because of the Look of it in itself and the fact that they wil have a black and purple avaible down the road and it would look sick with my Insanity. But it held extremely well on the target and was not to light. The stokerized hunter with nothing on it did little cut down vibration and felt to light for my liking. With a Saturn Weight and Saturn Dampener added it fit was I am used to liking. Vibration was reduced and It held on the targe much better.
Doinker EDSH11. Echoes what has been said above with the prior 2 stabs, but may have a slight edge in cutting out the most vibration.
Doinker Dish. Hard to find something that sticks out above the other stab mentioned aside from the fact that I just dont like the looks of these. They work but im just not into the look of these. (That is Me, You may like the looks)
Doinker Multirod Hunter. This is the only Doinker I shot that did not impress me. Weight and balance was just fine but there was a weird Vibe with this stab. I think the Vibration came from the individual rods that make up this stablizer.
Half V bars that where tested where the Stokerized and the X stab GK sent Karbon, Sorry dont remember the name right now...Getting late lol
These both worked Similar to the SS1 and Tactical but they keep the weight more towards the back of the bow, and are "generally" used with longer stabs up front. Both Helped balance the bows fine, and it was a tossup at to which I would choose since this was the first time I had had this style on my bow ever. With the Dampeners on the Stokerized they both matched up pretty evenly but the adjustability of the stokerized gave it a slight edge. They got the edge because if needed you could add weight or dampeners to them where as with the other stab you could not.
One stab I did not really get into was the SOS. This one was weird. For my bow it did not do much, but 2lunger brought 2 bows with him today. One bow he did not notice much, the other he could definitly tell it cut down on the vibe. Guess Stabs are kind of like bows, its more about what you are looking for than anything. The above statements where made through what I was looking for in a Stab. My likes as dislikes may fall in line with what your looking for in a stab, but that is all up you.
If I had to Pick one company to suggest a new archery to look into if they where in the market for a Stabilizer The Overall Winner would be Doinker. They only had one stab I was not to fond of but in general they exceeded what I was looking for in stabilizers, with Stokerized coming in a close Second place.
Thanks to all the companys that were involved and Thanks to those who came out to lend us their opinion on the Stablizers as well.