Disgusted with Elite Archery Respect the Game show.

[bgriff008]

Just got done watching Elites hunting show and in the show I watched, they tracked a mountain lion with dogs and then shot the mountain lion out of a tree. So Ya Im disgusted with how that turned out. Kind of a BS way to hunt something when its for sport. I mean cmon. The dogs do the work. The Cat goes in the tree and they shoot it. How can that be exciting. Just the whole thing about it turned me off. Just not sport in it if you ask me. Plus, I dont really agree with shooting wild cats, like the mountain lion, where there doesnt seem to be huge populations of them. I guess most of the animals they shoot on these hunting shows are in high abundance, so it doesnt bother me. But I think it was the lameness of the hunt and how they did it. It was almost as bad as a show I saw where these two guys were walking a fire road that was higher in elevation than the swamp they were watching for gators in. The gators were all over the place sunning themselves and these two guys just found the biggest one and shot it with a high powered rifle. Big F...ing deal I said to myself....Where is the sport in that. Retarded if you ask me. These guys were high fiveing like they just accomplished something of greatness.

So, ya this is my own opinion and thats just how I feel. Some of the hunting that take place is lame, just so someone can say theyve shot something most dont get to shoot. But its the way they do it, that just didnt seem very exciting and unfair I guess.

[nicko]

There are some accepted methods of hunting in other areas of the country I'm not in agreement with. But if it's legal and they aren't breaking any laws, it is what it is. I just won't watch it or read a story about it.

I think in some southern states the use of dogs to run deer is legal (I think). Ain't my cup of tea.

[KevinNY]

Broaden your horizons a bit.

[Stoney]

have you ever coon hunted? same concept except in the daylight. And huntin coons is really fun! I saw a show where the dogs treed the lion and the hunter shot it with a pistol....I would never kill a big cat but being close enough to one to kill it with a pistol or a bow has got to be a rush.

[Cope]

Hunting Mt. Lions with hounds is common practice in the west, and probably just about anywhere else they're hunted. I have heard that people call them in, but i don't think the success rate is as high as hound hunting.

[benel3006]

Have you ever hunted with hounds or people who run them? Not bashing your opinion as I didn't see show, just know there's probably a lot more in it than gets presented in a half hour segment. Most of the houndsmen I've known, or have been with are in it for the treeing, very rarely taking an animal. I'm in the East so it's black bear and coons. Do know one guy that does head out to Idaho though for cats. It's tough terrain and there often at higher elevation than their use to, so just keeping up and getting to the dogs if they succeed in treeing is difficult. As far as taking animals out there, I know the ranchers would like them all gone. I don't agree with that but if there are tags available, I hope the wildlife agency that issues is doing there homework.

[shootstraight]

You're gonna hate bear hunters around here then. I don't personally lke that way of hunting but who am I to judge them if it's legal.

[Cope]

Ask the joggers and bicyclists who get chewed on by these over grown "kittens" what they think of them.

[IRISH66]

Hunting Mt. Lions with hounds is common practice in the west, and probably just about anywhere else they're hunted. I have heard that people call them in , but i don't think the success rate is as high as hound hunting.

That would be cool if you want to become the hunted:nono:

[bgriff008]

I think for me it was the fact that it was a big cat and mountain lions just arent as abundant as other animals that are hunted. I have no problems shooting coons or anyone else that shoots them, same with the likes of Ferrel Hogs. These types of animals are out of control and need to be shot and killed. Ive watched that show on TV (dont recall the name) but these young kids from texas have their dogs track hogs, so they can kill them. Dont care two craps about the hog, but I do worry about the dogs getting hurt. I know they put those big collars on the dogs so the tusks from the hogs dont get them.
Anyway, there is alot of hunting that doesnt bother me, but I guess there is a little that does.

[bgriff008]

Ya I guess if one attacked me, I would feel different. LOL I get everyones point.

[Cope]

I'll have to ask the Fox Pro boys if they've got any calling. If it can be called they've killed it.

[slickhedshooter]

Don't you have a PETA meeting to go to?

[bonemonger]

i hate to respond to ignorant threads like this but here goes. have you ever trained a dog in your life? it takes hundreds of hours to get dogs to run and tree coons and lions. the places where lions are hunted are so rough the average hunter couldnt cut it. they have become a big problem in Oregon since they dont allow hound hunting. i bet you have never rabbit hunted with beagles or bird hunted with dogs or you wouldnt have made your unimformed comments. hunting with dogs and enjoying the chase is what all houndsman enjoy more than the harvest.

[IRISH66]

i hate to respond to ignorant threads like this but here goes. have you ever trained a dog in your life? it takes hundreds of hours to get dogs to run and tree coons and lions. the places where lions are hunted are so rough the average hunter couldnt cut it. they have become a big problem in Oregon since they dont allow hound hunting. i bet you have never rabbit hunted with beagles or bird hunted with dogs or you wouldnt have made your unimformed comments. hunting with dogs and enjoying the chase is what all houndsman enjoy more than the harvest.

same here up in Washington, cats and bears are becoming more of a problem in my area!

[pbuck]

I'm on tapatalk so I don't have my super duper face palm poster to post up but if i had it........

[TEXAS 10PT]

:pop2::pop2: Really?.....:loser:

TEXAS

[Jbehredt]

Hounds for cats a totally acceptable sporting method of take. That hunt is on my personal Colorado slam.

[timmymac24]

I wish they would have been hunting in California. Mountain lions have been protected here and the deer populations struggle as it is without protecting the mountain lion. My brothers and nephews have been raising coon dogs for a long time and finding a good dog is a needle in the haystack. Like the previous posts commented if it is legal, then deal with it. I don't have a desire to ever a kill a cat or even a bear for that matter but I have the option of turning the channel or not reading about it.

[Rgarbarino]

The cat hunt didn't bother me but hunting bear from a tree stand over a bait pile is even less sporting in my opinion. I know it's legal and have no problem with other doing it but I would never do it like that.

[ArcherAdam]

The cat hunt didn't bother me but hunting bear from a tree stand over a bait pile is even less sporting in my opinion. I know it's legal and have no problem with other doing it but I would never do it like that.

That's what I thought too when me and a few buds booked a hunted a while back. After coming back from new Brunswick my thoughts changed. It was not as easy as it looks.

Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk

[Maybee-R]

Just got done watching Elites hunting show and in the show I watched, they tracked a mountain lion with dogs and then shot the mountain lion out of a tree. So Ya Im disgusted with how that turned out. Kind of a BS way to hunt something when its for sport. I mean cmon. The dogs do the work. The Cat goes in the tree and they shoot it. How can that be exciting. Just the whole thing about it turned me off. Just not sport in it if you ask me. Plus, I dont really agree with shooting wild cats, like the mountain lion, where there doesnt seem to be huge populations of them. I guess most of the animals they shoot on these hunting shows are in high abundance, so it doesnt bother me. But I think it was the lameness of the hunt and how they did it. It was almost as bad as a show I saw where these two guys were walking a fire road that was higher in elevation than the swamp they were watching for gators in. The gators were all over the place sunning themselves and these two guys just found the biggest one and shot it with a high powered rifle. Big F...ing deal I said to myself....Where is the sport in that. Retarded if you ask me. These guys were high fiveing like they just accomplished something of greatness.

So, ya this is my own opinion and thats just how I feel. Some of the hunting that take place is lame, just so someone can say theyve shot something most dont get to shoot. But its the way they do it, that just didnt seem very exciting and unfair I guess.


You going to be OK?

[b-rad]

Really lmao

[Daniel Boone]

Sad when many just cant except hunting done so many ways. Dogs have been used hunting sense the early days of man.
Most hunters often treat there hunting dogs better than there kids and family.

JUst understand how you hunt most likely offends someone else as well.
DB

[evworld]

I guess hunting rabbits with beagles or pheasants with bird dogs is no good also.

[HORSEMOVER]

Tell us how you really feel...LMAO

[mfr22@msn.com]

Everyone has their own opinions of what a hunt should be and as long as its legal, its OK with me. By the way, the deer in your avatar is probably illegal in many areas of the country now....

[mfr22@msn.com]

By the way Elite...I happen to really like your show!

[callmin]

Hunting cats with dogs in the rugged mountains is more sporting and fair chase than any whitetail hunt I have ever been on. Just because the dogs "do all the work" you still have to get to the tree, which could be 3 miles over a mountain top in snow up to your **s, to take the shot and hope the cat doesn't jump out of the tree when he sees you coming and run another 3 miles. It is a very exciting hunt.

[pinoybowhunter]

If there is a small population of these predators, they wouldn't be allowing hunters to harvest them. Also I do respect your opinion about this type of hunting not being your cup of tea however if game is harvested legally w/in the laws of that state, in my opinion, that is still an ethical harvest

[HORSEMOVER]

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4613620006715539&id=5aa4f075e36ea134fe51c2055512941b&index=newexp&url=http%3a%2f%2fomg.totfarm.com%2fpics%2fpic_1232 7347382534.jpg

[Roland]

Probably would have a different opinion if you looked outside and saw this in your yard.

[Sean]

Nothing wrong with hunting big cats like that. Believe it or not, there is a good abundance of Mt.lions in the southwest states. Arizona, New Mexico and far west Texas. I have no issues with it and would actually love to do it sometime. They are not overhunting these animals, the state knows how many need to be taken out each year to maintain a healthy population, yet not so many that the ranchers are loosing an excess of livestock.

[P.Smash]

:fit::fit: The bad man killed the kitty witty using dogs :fit: :fit:


Read a book, or actually go hunting......something OTHER than 6 pointers in Ohio.

I been on a cat hunt with dogs, and it aint easy....at all. You gotta run yer a$$ off trying to keep up with a big friggin cat, being chased by mean a$$ dogs over the roughest country God has created......then when you finally gt him treed, and you have absolutely no breath left in your lungs, with every muscle in your body burning from exhaustion......you have to draw your bow, make a perfect shot, at a highly elevated target that's pi$$ed off and would thrash yer a$$ in a second if it could.

So yeah, it's sporting......and it's legal. Nuff said.

Love,
Smash

[IRISH66]

"The only good cat is a dead cat"

[Chippy (aka Slippy)]

As long as you "respect the game" thats all that matters. lol

[jjbuilder]

Lion hunting is not as easy as it looks. I agree alot of times it might look like an easy shot but that is the exception and not the rule. I have a friend that runs hounds and went along once to help out. I can tell you just getting to the cat is a tough job. Then you have to deal with your adrenaline and shaking from running for miles and take a clean shot (if you can get one). You might even have crazy azz tree climbing hounds that you can't tie up and get them out of the way to deal with...lol. Lion hunting is the only effective means of population control. It's alot of work and you better be in shape for it.

[TexasCanesFan]

Until I can put Cat Chow in a feeder and kill one that way, then dogs would be my method of choice. :D :D :D

I love the folks that THEIR regional way of hunting is the only "right" way to do things and therefore everyone else is wrong.

I would post more, but I need to go check for holes in my high fence and top off all my feeders. :D

[HORSEMOVER]

Lion hunting is not as easy as it looks. I agree alot of times it might look like an easy shot but that is the exception and not the rule. I have a friend that runs hounds and went along once to help out. I can tell you just getting to the cat is a tough job. Then you have to deal with your adrenaline and shaking from running for miles and take a clean shot (if you can get one). You might even have crazy azz tree climbing hounds that you can't tie up and get them out of the way to deal with...lol. Lion hunting is the only effective means of population control. It's alot of work and you better be in shape for it.

Cool pic Jerry. Crazy azz tree climbing hounds...LMAO

[jjbuilder]

Until I can put Cat Chow in a feeder and kill one that way, then dogs would be my method of choice. :D :D :D

I love the folks that THEIR regional way of hunting is the only "right" way to do things and therefore everyone else is wrong.

I would post more, but I need to go check for holes in my high fence and top off all my feeders. :D


You forgot to make sure that the gates to the canned hunt pens are locked too! You're slacking TCF!:2thunbs:

[jjbuilder]

Cool pic Jerry. Crazy azz tree climbing hounds...LMAO

Thanks, got some more somewhere. Got a few real good ones showing some hounds waaay up high in the tree. Will post them up if I can find them

[Sean]

Until I can put Cat Chow in a feeder and kill one that way, then dogs would be my method of choice. :D :D :D

I love the folks that THEIR regional way of hunting is the only "right" way to do things and therefore everyone else is wrong.

I would post more, but I need to go check for holes in my high fence and top off all my feeders. :D

Stay away from my lease till I'm there to turn loose the breeder bucks.

On a side note, I'm picking up a pallet of 9-lives cat food on the way down next Thursday. ;)

[groundskeeper]

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4613620006715539&id=5aa4f075e36ea134fe51c2055512941b&index=newexp&url=http%3a%2f%2fomg.totfarm.com%2fpics%2fpic_1232 7347382534.jpg

I just spit my iced tea out all over my desk planner and monitor. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chippy (aka Slippy)]

I just spit my iced tea out all over my desk planner and monitor. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

its is a cute little fat kitte.

[groundskeeper]

Just got done watching Elites hunting show and in the show I watched, they tracked a mountain lion with dogs and then shot the mountain lion out of a tree. So Ya Im disgusted with how that turned out. Kind of a BS way to hunt something when its for sport. I mean cmon. The dogs do the work. The Cat goes in the tree and they shoot it. How can that be exciting. Just the whole thing about it turned me off. Just not sport in it if you ask me. Plus, I dont really agree with shooting wild cats, like the mountain lion, where there doesnt seem to be huge populations of them. I guess most of the animals they shoot on these hunting shows are in high abundance, so it doesnt bother me. But I think it was the lameness of the hunt and how they did it. It was almost as bad as a show I saw where these two guys were walking a fire road that was higher in elevation than the swamp they were watching for gators in. The gators were all over the place sunning themselves and these two guys just found the biggest one and shot it with a high powered rifle. Big F...ing deal I said to myself....Where is the sport in that. Retarded if you ask me. These guys were high fiveing like they just accomplished something of greatness.

So, ya this is my own opinion and thats just how I feel. Some of the hunting that take place is lame, just so someone can say theyve shot something most dont get to shoot. But its the way they do it, that just didnt seem very exciting and unfair I guess.

Well, I'm really disgusted w/deer drives, stand sitters, gun hunters, x-bow hunters, muzzle loader hunting, still hunting , mooch hunting, coon hunting, hunters stalking squirrels, turkey hunting, calling to turkeys, using decoys for turkeys, using dogs in the fall to scatter turkey flocks then calling them back in, duck hunters in a blind sitting on a pond, baiting bears, blah, blah, blah, blah. Fact of the matter is, it is a legal accepted practice of hunting for that species in that area. LEGAL just because you have never experienced it doesn't really matter. I'd bet ya if ya asked folks out west that have had livestock killed by big predator animals, I bet they would'nt hesitate to tell ya kill em all. Guys run coyotes with dogs here all winter long and collectively as a group manage to take 30-50 coyotes annually. Ya know what? Although I don't participate I certainly am not "disgusted" by it and in fact am thankful that they kill a predator that kills the deer and turkeys around here. Oh ya and btw that buck in your avatar would of cost you $400 at the taxidermist cuz the group i hunt with passes on yearling bucks like that one. Bet your pretty disgusted with that too. Geesh, I guess in todays world of cyper posting and the like it just isn't right to partake in any legalized form of hunting where you live. Guess you boys better get ready, cuz I'm gonna sell all my hunting and fishing stuff dirt cheap, cause I might offend someone on the internet with the method of hunting I choose!!!!!!!! I KA RUMBA I SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!:spanker:

[Sean]

Lets keep it civil folks. He has his right to his opinions just like the rest of us do.

I like the fat kitty in the tree pic. :D

[Goldfinch]

Just got done watching Elites hunting show and in the show I watched, they tracked a mountain lion with dogs and then shot the mountain lion out of a tree. So Ya Im disgusted with how that turned out. Kind of a BS way to hunt something when its for sport. I mean cmon. The dogs do the work. The Cat goes in the tree and they shoot it. How can that be exciting. Just the whole thing about it turned me off. Just not sport in it if you ask me. Plus, I dont really agree with shooting wild cats, like the mountain lion, where there doesnt seem to be huge populations of them. I guess most of the animals they shoot on these hunting shows are in high abundance, so it doesnt bother me. But I think it was the lameness of the hunt and how they did it. It was almost as bad as a show I saw where these two guys were walking a fire road that was higher in elevation than the swamp they were watching for gators in. The gators were all over the place sunning themselves and these two guys just found the biggest one and shot it with a high powered rifle. Big F...ing deal I said to myself....Where is the sport in that. Retarded if you ask me. These guys were high fiveing like they just accomplished something of greatness.

So, ya this is my own opinion and thats just how I feel. Some of the hunting that take place is lame, just so someone can say theyve shot something most dont get to shoot. But its the way they do it, that just didnt seem very exciting and unfair I guess.

Obviously you are creating this thread out of total ignorance.
It's hard to believe anyone that has access to the internet or a basic knowledge of North American hunting in general would have an opinion like yours.

Have you ever done it?
Ever been above 2000 ft. in your life while hunting?
Sitting in a tower blind with a rifle isn't as "sporting" as chasing a mt. lion up and down the Rocky Mts. IMO, but who am I to judge.

Just call a mt. lion guide and ask if you can tail along to see what it is like.
You don't have to be the hunter, just an observer.
Should be a field trip, it will be so easy. :thumb:
Like shooting fish in a barrel.

You really need to broaden your horizons when it comes to hunting.

If posting this thread wasn't out of total ignorance, well then you can go :profanity: yourself.
PETA has enough idiots helping them, they don't need another one.

[Chippy (aka Slippy)]

Lets keep it civil folks. He has his right to his opinions just like the rest of us do.

I like the fat kitty in the tree pic. :D


Yep, he's totally allowed to be disgusted. I personally don't care for it, but at the end of the day really don't give a eff.

[deerct101]

I just spit my iced tea out all over my desk planner and monitor. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

That's funny as all get out. Thanks for the laugh and the picture made me pee pants.

[ntypicl11]

Up here in Mn, the DNR was not admitting that there were any cats. Alot of pics on trailcams, but that still wasn't good enough. In 2001, I left my stand to drop a turd. On the way back, there was one pissed off cat stalking me. Evidently didn't like the brown cloud consuming his home! I never saw it, but you'll NEVER mistake a mt lion snarl!!!

I just heard the other day, that they are quite tasty??

[ntypicl11]

Any of you guys have a split personality?

[HORSEMOVER]

My mate Denis down under is a cold blooded brumby killa. Different than what we are used to but so be it.

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab285/denisbarden/DSCF7148.jpg

[INGOZI]

Wow that is some strong sentiments, I feel that there is absolutely nothing wrong with they way they hunted because for one, if you have ever been on such a hunt you will know that is far from easy and most definitely not a guarantee that you will get a cat. Secondly, it is a fully acceptable and legal means of hunting mountain Lion and such should not be frowned on. If you are not happy with what you are watching on television then simply change the channel.

[RFD529]

I thought that was the PSE Pete when I first saw it. :pop2:

[HORSEMOVER]

Wow that is some strong sentiments, I feel that there is absolutely nothing wrong with they way they hunted because for one, if you have ever been on such a hunt you will know that is far from easy and most definitely not a guarantee that you will get a cat. Secondly, it is a fully acceptable and legal means of hunting mountain Lion and such should not be frowned on. If you are not happy with what you are watching on television then simply change the channel.

Well said INGOZI

[thumper]

Come on guys be nice or I'm gonna , I'm gonna , something . S*** forgot what I was going to say ,sure hate getting old . :noidea:

[TEXAS 10PT]

My mate Denis down under is a cold blooded brumby killa. Different than what we are used to but so be it.

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab285/denisbarden/DSCF7148.jpg

Geez Jamie....is that a HORSE????:movehorse:....LMAO!!!!

TEXAS

[KodiakArcher]

I think for me it was the fact that it was a big cat and mountain lions just arent as abundant as other animals that are hunted. I have no problems shooting coons or anyone else that shoots them, same with the likes of Ferrel Hogs. These types of animals are out of control and need to be shot and killed.

Where do you get your statistics on population levels of mountain lion?

Mountain lions are a major predator of deer and elk. Their population levels in states like CO and ID are so high that their annual take of deer as prey likely exceeds the harvest by hunters. Wildlife management includes managing predator species as well as prey species. That means harvesting large cats and the only effective way to do that is with hounds.

I don't mind if someone draws a harsh opinion against something. I just can't stand when it's out of ignorance. The world would be a lot better place if people would take the time to do some research and educate themselves on topics before getting all bent out of shape based on emotions.

I've never hunted over hounds but I know people that own them. I've been in that terrain and around those species. I definitely know it's not anything close to "easy". I've educated myself on it and decided it's not for me... for now anyway. I certainly don't knock anyone else that wants to go enjoy it. And every time I see a big mountain mulie in CO, I thank the guys that do!!

[Sean]

Geez Jamie....is that a HORSE????:movehorse:....LMAO!!!!

TEXAS

No Jeff, thats a Brumby. Horses are at rodeos not running wild in the outback.

[Cope]

I just heard the other day, that they are quite tasty??[/QUOTE]
I think i'd have to be pretty **** hungry to eat a cat!:throwup:

[HORSEMOVER]

No Jeff, thats a Brumby. Horses are at rodeos not running wild in the outback.

I agree. I wonder where Denis is...he hasn't been on forever? Can't wait till he comes back. He has prolly been out slaying all sorts of beasts. I would like to hear his perspective on this topic.

[P.Smash]

I just heard the other day, that they are quite tasty??
I think i'd have to be pretty **** hungry to eat a cat!:throwup:[/QUOTE]


BBQ'd Mtn. Lion loin is delicious. It's just recycled deer, elk and rabbit :thumb:

[P.Smash]

I agree. I wonder where Denis is...he hasn't been on forever? Can't wait till he comes back. He has prolly been out slaying all sorts of beasts. I would like to hear his perspective on this topic.



Prolly out chasin the "Fox" and pounding down Fosters :)

[thumper]

I know one MC club all they do is serve Brumby at their party's . Opp's I'm wrong they serve horse . It's taste alright . Maybe it would taste better if the clubhouse didn't always smell like puke . :buddies:

[TEXAS 10PT]

No Jeff, thats a Brumby. Horses are at rodeos not running wild in the outback.

HAHAHAHAHA Nice bloodtrail too......Brumby eh? Like a wild Mustang....hhehehe

TEXAS

[HORSEMOVER]

HAHAHAHAHA Nice bloodtrail too......Brumby eh? Like a wild Mustang....hhehehe

TEXAS

It was a nice looking brumby no doubt

[CATrapper]

I guess it's time to put my 4 Vizslas down and teach myself to find quail and pheasant. Gonna be tough since I can't smell a chili fart in a sleeping bag but since using dogs to hunt is unethical, it the right thing to do. Maybe I will become a new Breed and point Brumby's.

[Cope]

BBQ'd Mtn. Lion loin is delicious. It's just recycled deer, elk and rabbit :thumb:[/QUOTE]
It's a mental thing with me. Don't tell me what it is and i'd probably woof it down.

[HORSEMOVER]

I guess it's time to put my 4 Vizslas down and teach myself to find quail and pheasant. Gonna be tough since I can't smell a chili fart in a sleeping bag but since using dogs to hunt is unethical, it the right thing to do. Maybe I will become a new Breed and point Brumby's.

If you start breeding brumby pointing Vizslas I want one...pm sent

[benel3006]

[/QUOTE]It's a mental thing with me. Don't tell me what it is and i'd probably woof it down.[/QUOTE]

It's the purrfect choice to serve with coyote and watch your freinds woof it down.

[shootstraight]

I don't know but maybe Pete's up for another "wanker award"..

[Cope]

It's the purrfect choice to serve with coyote and watch your freinds woof it down.[/QUOTE]


Remind me not to show up to one of your BBQ's. lmao

[ntypicl11]

BBQ'd Mtn. Lion loin is delicious. It's just recycled deer, elk and rabbit :thumb:
It's a mental thing with me. Don't tell me what it is and i'd probably woof it down.[/QUOTE]



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you said WOOF!

[Cope]

CAT: It's what's for dinner..... Not!!!

[HORSEMOVER]

Black Brumby Down

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[Cope]

Horse: It's whats for dinner!!!

[danblacksher]

I have heard from 2 of my friends who have killed mountain lions with a bow that it is the most challenging hunt they have ever been on. They have eaten every kind of wild game you can imagine from deer, elk, moose, buffalo, caribou, and both said Mt. Lion was the best meat they had ever eaten. Said you have to get it tested for trichinosis, by the dnr before you eat it, but they said it is amazing.:chef:

[340axis]

I have killed a lot of critters, spent over 10 years trying to kill a lion without dogs you have to be real lucky to get it done. Way smarter than anything else I have hunted.

[Rick]

For the hunters that use thier trained dogs to hunt game, it must be a very rewarding time. After years of training that the dogs actually do what they were trained for. I've never hunted with dogs for deer, cougars, or bear but would like to try someday. If the bear or cat that is treed is not what I'm lookin for then I can walk away. Same with deer hunting with dogs or any other method of hunting. We as hunters make that decision to shoot and take the animal we chase. As a stand hunter mostly I can see how exciting this type of hunting is and to those hunters they must think I'm a boring hunter waiting for a deer to walk by. No problem as long as we accept the way we hunt as our individual choice as long as legal methods.

[deerct101]

Black Brumby Down

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Horse: It's whats for dinner!!!

It's not a horse it's a Brumby dang it.

[bgriff008]

Ya so my original post was not posted out of ignorance, but more so lack of experience and knowledge and for that I apologize. Im new to hunting only two seasons and I posted based off of what I saw from the show, which appeared to be a pretty easy track of a Mt lion and shooting it out of the tree. All I was saying is that it didnt look like much. I have no problems with people using dogs to hunt with, I have no problem with people shooting any animal if its done legally. I dont have a problem with any animal being killed and it helps in controlling population or a known problem. My main comment was more about the sport of it and the fact that it didnt look difficult at all. After the 3rd or 4th post from several of you I got the point of what was said and what it takes to accomplish such a feat. I dont know, maybe it was the fact that a lot more went into the hunt that was not shown. I guess I could have made more of an educated response had they shown more of it and actually how hard it was. Like I said Im new to the hunting world, So how would I know.

Oh and the comments about shooting my 4 point buck, so sorry I havent had the chance to actually see anything bigger in my short hunting career. The last time I made a comment about someone elses 4 point kill and the fact that I would pass on it, someone b.itched about that. Thats when I realized its about the hunt and not how big the rack is and I will maintain that stance. If you get to see and shoot something as big as what we see on these shows then congratulations. I can only hope I get to see something and shoot at a buck like we all see on these hunting shows. Yes, in all honesty I would love to be able to manage the deer on my wifes grandparents property in Michigan, but theyre land is surrounded by hunting camps and they shoot everything. So it will be hard to see mature bucks. If I had not shot my buck someone else would have. I have yet to really hunt in Ohio. Still learning the deer movement through the farm Ive been lucky enough to hunt on with my neighbor. It was our first year hunting the farm in Ohio and had no luck.

I guess the positive I can take from pi$$ing off several of you, is the fact that I learned hunting a big cat like the mountain lion is more rewarding and more difficult than what was shown on TV. Again I apologize for offending anyone and not knowing my facts. Ive learned alot from this forum and keep learning from it.

[nicko]

You are not yet forgiven. You have angered the archery gods. Your penance is as follows: turn in your Z28 and shoot a Lone Wolf Lobo, the ugliest bow of all time for a period of two years. Say 10 Hail Marys and 3 Our Fathers and then you can reclaim your Z.

[benel3006]

Took it your first post was shortly after watching the episode, and was based on first impression. Myself, I wasn't pissed off, just have some experience with hounds and freinds that run them. The houndsmen take it hard as most don't see the work and effort they put in. It's a tough way to hunt and can get expensive quick. Glad to see you you followed this thread thru. If your ever in New England in the Fall and want to see hounds run get in touch and I may be able to get something together.

[Jbehredt]

exactly what forums are meant to do. Bounce thoughts and feelings off like minded people. This turned out nice.

[P.Smash]

He11 man don't be so thin skinned. Yes, your post was ignorant and and completely douchebaggy......but that's how you learn stuff. Put the ol' foot in the mouth a few times and you figure sh!t out real quick. You didn't pi$$ anyone off, they just bashed the crap out of your post because it was without merit.

If yer gonna hang around here for a while yer gonna hafta learn to take it AND dish it out without taking everything so personal. If yer proud of your 4 point (which you totally should be) tell the douchebags that rag you about it to eat &$@$ and die. They'll respect your moxie (I really HATE that word but it fits) and learn not jack with the big BGRIFF008 :thumb:

Love,
Smash

[bgriff008]

Took it your first post was shortly after watching the episode, and was based on first impression. Myself, I wasn't pissed off, just have some experience with hounds and freinds that run them. The houndsmen take it hard as most don't see the work and effort they put in. It's a tough way to hunt and can get expensive quick. Glad to see you you followed this thread thru. If your ever in New England in the Fall and want to see hounds run get in touch and I may be able to get something together.
Love New England. Currently watching my Bruins play the Sabres. Go B's.

Smash, I didnt take offense to anything anyone said. When writing, its tough to get ones tone across. So its hard to really get to worked up over some of the comments. I mean, after re-reading my original post I only set myself up to get bashed. Oh well you live you learn.

[MX9799]

Dogs and man have hunted together since the beginning of time. That's why dogs are considered man's best friend. Me, I like hunting from a tree on a quiet relaxing day, but I hunt for fun, not for a living. If you're hunting to survive, like they had to way back when, dog's were vital. Some folks like to keep the tradition alive and go hunting alongside their dogs.

FWIW, if my dog could sit still and keep quiet, I'd try to figure out a way to get her in the tree to hunt with me.

[Trial153]

I keep hounds and run rabbit, fox and coyote....don't knock something till you try it....a Loin chase in the mountains is no sure bet with or without hounds and those guys work their asses off... Kudos to elite for putting on the show. Hunting with hounds Is a great American pastime that is enjoyed by many sportsman ...all the guys I run with are avid outdoorsman and support other forms of hunting in every other respect .. Sorry to see guys like that getting knocked by other hunters

[bgriff008]

Dogs and man have hunted together since the beginning of time. That's why dogs are considered man's best friend. Me, I like hunting from a tree on a quiet relaxing day, but I hunt for fun, not for a living. If you're hunting to survive, like they had to way back when, dog's were vital. Some folks like to keep the tradition alive and go hunting alongside their dogs.

FWIW, if my dog could sit still and keep quiet, I'd try to figure out a way to get her in the tree to hunt with me.

Dude Im as big a dog lover as anyone. Got a rescue Yellow Lab/Golden retreiver mix and shes the love of my life.....Dont tell my wife that, but she is daddy's girl. Dog has two dog beds plus our bed and a spare room bed and she sleeps on them all. She loves the spare room bed, (first story room) because she can watch through the window outside all day. Most laid back, mild tempered dog ever. The dog is spoiled rotten. And if I could take her hunting when I get a blind, I would. She would love to see deer.

[BAD007]

Well since i just read thru this i will ad my 2 cents to the thread. The sport in Lion hunting is just simply getting to the animal after it is treed. Trust those that have done it. It is more demending than any hunting you will ever do here in the midwest. And when i checked mine in the officer asked me to please come back as they needed thinned out pretty badly. Chasing these lions in the terrain they roam is no party. But dang is it a rush when you get close eneough to kill one. Plus they kill an elk,mule deer or cow every week per animal. And they don't eat it all before doing it again.

[Rev. Juan]

You are not yet forgiven. You have angered the archery gods. Your penance is as follows: turn in your Z28 and shoot a Lone Wolf Lobo, the ugliest bow of all time for a period of two years. Say 10 Hail Marys and 3 Our Fathers and then you can reclaim your Z.

HAHAHA This was the best!!!

[thumper]

Bgriffoo8 good to meet a young man with some class . Hope you stay on the forum for a long time . :rockon:

[Trial153]

Bgriffoo8 good to meet a young man with some class . Hope you stay on the forum for a long time . :rockon:

X2 I read your follow up posts ...glad to see your changed your mind a bit. If your ever out my way come and run some coyotes or snow shoes and we will show you a good time.

[Rick]

Yes I agree great follow-up. I'm sure all of us hunters are somewhat ignorant to other methods that we as hunters use throughout the world. And for your buck, I'm sure he tasted great!! My first 10 years of hunting were killing anything with horns. Does were not allowed to be shot. This was how I was taught by my father and Uncles. When they were young it was a real accomplishment to see a deer no-less kill one. As I hunted more I got more picky. Now I shoot only mature bucks for trophy's and does for meat. Seems to work on our lease in Ohio because last season after 4 years of us (6 hunters) practicing qdm, we shot 5 bucks smallest 130" biggest 173", and passed on several that will be slammers next fall. Not saying everyone should hunt this way, but it works for us and we get more enjoyment out of seeing big bucks each time we hunt.

[titan-chaser]

Mountain lion, wolves, yotes, etc, PREDATORS! Eat young elk, deer and turkey. As far as I'm concerned, I salute the use of dogs on predators. It is hard to watch, but if it bothers me, I turn the channel and watch Dr. Oz.

[Smoman]

My mate Denis down under is a cold blooded brumby killa. Different than what we are used to but so be it.

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab285/denisbarden/DSCF7148.jpg

This guy treed the horse, and took both the tree and the horse down with one arrow. I even think the horse is still alive in the picture.

We could make anything unethical if we wanted....that is what is wrong with the world. We are making a bunch of pansies out of everyone. Hunting is not meant to be pretty! But in the end I bet most have a huge respect for what they just harvested and made sure what they shot was going to die and not run around injured.

Just like the huge over run population of domestic cats in some towns running crazy....euthanize them...I bet the protesters would not take them in, even though they will Bit@# about killing them.

I have to digress, I get crazy on how everyone is so touchy anymore and "you hurt my feelings"...but in the end everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I understand CAT hunting....I have to admit sometimes when I watch a bear hunt with food about 15 yds away and its shot with a crossbow, I think that is not hunting to me. But it really is, and its not about how hard the hunt was...I think every animal should have a chance to get away for hunting to be hunting....I like my odds alot higher. My Elite bow upped my odds 80% for me, 20% for the walking meat.

Hunt safe and help others, PO

Smoman

[Smoman]

bgriff008

Hey don't feel bad, your not the only one that hunts that ever thought it...you just had the gonads to write it.

Nice Broadhead choice!!

Smoman

[HORSEMOVER]

:movehorse:Brumby not horse...just saying

[gamehog1]

ya should try it bgriff I have put in countless hours and miles going with my buddies chasing cats trust me finding a track then turning the dogs out doesn't mean anything we have had way more nature "runs" than killing. There isnt anything like finally getting one in a tree only to look it over and see its a female or not a good enough cat to kill. Just know they aren't killing everyone they come across most of the guys I know are more protective of them than some guys are of their children. So just seein what they show probably takes most of the actual hunt out of it. I wish you could come out and go through the whole thing it is very fun.and extremely challenging. Like isaid i still havent got one.

[titan-chaser]

This guy treed the horse, and took both the tree and the horse down with one arrow. I even think the horse is still alive in the picture.

We could make anything unethical if we wanted....that is what is wrong with the world. We are making a bunch of pansies out of everyone. Hunting is not meant to be pretty! But in the end I bet most have a huge respect for what they just harvested and made sure what they shot was going to die and not run around injured.

Just like the huge over run population of domestic cats in some towns running crazy....euthanize them...I bet the protesters would not take them in, even though they will Bit@# about killing them.

I have to digress, I get crazy on how everyone is so touchy anymore and "you hurt my feelings"...but in the end everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I understand CAT hunting....I have to admit sometimes when I watch a bear hunt with food about 15 yds away and its shot with a crossbow, I think that is not hunting to me. But it really is, and its not about how hard the hunt was...I think every animal should have a chance to get away for hunting to be hunting....I like my odds alot higher. My Elite bow upped my odds 80% for me, 20% for the walking meat.

Hunt safe and help others, PO

Smoman

This guy is a predator, I like it.

[bgriff008]

Trial.....Thumper and Rick, Thanks for the kind words as well as the rest of you that all contributed to this thread. This post has been really good for me. Ive come full circle, made some cyber friends and have been invited to join some hunts. Man this is great. What else can I be disgusted with.....Just kidding, LOL
I live in a great state to hunt white tail, but until I meet someone that hunts a nice plot of land or pay an outfitter $1500 or more, Im stuck with hunting up in Michigan with my brother inlaw, which I love to do, but tough to get out and hunt when that drive is 7 hours away.

[Jbehredt]

Just saw the episode. They did make it look like you park the truck let the dog out of the back and look up in the nearest tree.

[thumper]

Ya whats up with all the hunt offers ? I'm starting to get disgusted myself . LOL greenwithenvy

[bgriff008]

Ya whats up with all the hunt offers ? I'm starting to get disgusted myself . LOL greenwithenvy

LOL, Seriously.