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Marsh
02-04-2008, 08:25 AM
Help please! I have a 2008 Synergy XT,I ordered a longer draw mod set for it [it had a 27" and I went with 28.5"].When the bow tech set it up I had him install a Fletcher 3/16" peep. After taking the bow out of the press we saw that the rotation was off,so he re-pressed the bow and instead of replacing the peep [that takes time] he gave the string a twist. Afterward we put it on a scale and verified the bow had 71lbs draw with almost 80% let off. However the store was closing and I had no time to spend with the bow.After I got it home I noticed that the Valley was much shorter than before,the question is [did twisting the string do this,or putting on a longer draw mod?] The Cams are hitting perfect and the cables were Not Touched! Thank you! PS-the Moral of this story is dont have your bow worked on near Closing Time! Can I re-twist the string and get back to where I was,or will the cables need to be re-twisted also?:noidea:

woodsedger
02-04-2008, 08:38 AM
were was the dealer located at.i know putting more twist or taking out is not a real good idea.

Maybee-R
02-04-2008, 08:43 AM
Did he reset the Draw post for the new mod? one twist in the String shouldnt hurt it any.

BROKEN RACK ARCHERY D
02-04-2008, 09:42 AM
Did he reset the Draw post for the new mod? one twist in the String shouldnt hurt it any.
defenatly check the draw post setting,twisting the string to align the peep isnt going to effect your valley

FEDIE316
02-04-2008, 11:24 AM
defenatly check the draw post setting,twisting the string to align the peep isnt going to effect your valley

I agree! :2thunbs:

Archery-Addiction
02-04-2008, 11:29 AM
Did you move the draw stop peg after changing the mods from 27 to 28.5", if you did not you wouldn't be at 80% and you would have no valley. I can pick my bow up right now, take three twists out and my valley really does not change at all. Your valley is pretty much coming from your cables, not the string. When you change the string length, you will change the length of draw a bit, but with one turn hardly at all.

nebling
02-04-2008, 12:25 PM
I've put 1/2-1 twists in my strings to align the peep on many different bows. That WILL NOT affect the valley.

Elite_Kevin
02-04-2008, 01:18 PM
Like everyone said you probably just need to adjust your draw stop.

Takeum
02-04-2008, 02:12 PM
should have taken 1/2 turn either way to adjust peep,,, No way does that cause draw stop adjustment,,,,Do like Kevin said,,, check your draw stop adjustment,,,

Marsh
02-04-2008, 07:21 PM
:confuzd:YES the draw stop was re-set at around 5.2 or so per Elite spects. There is valley but not as much as before with the shorter draw mods on. Two things that I noticed afterward was that I can not set up the limb draw stops so that there is a small gap between the cable and mod draw stop without rolling out of the tiny valley imeadiately. And two ,the A to A is now about 1/8" longer than when I checked it prior to any work done. The brace is at 7'' and the A to A is 33 1/8. Just wondering ,if I take out a half turn on each cable with that have any effect on the length of the valley? I was thinking that by backing off the pre-load on the cables might have an effect on this. By the way, both cams are hitting the mod stops perfect. Thanks.

BenR
02-04-2008, 07:59 PM
:confuzd:YES the draw stop was re-set at around 5.2 or so per Elite spects. There is valley but not as much as before with the shorter draw mods on. Two things that I noticed afterward was that I can not set up the limb draw stops so that there is a small gap between the cable and mod draw stop without rolling out of the tiny valley imeadiately. And two ,the A to A is now about 1/8" longer than when I checked it prior to any work done. The brace is at 7'' and the A to A is 33 1/8. Just wondering ,if I take out a half turn on each cable with that have any effect on the length of the valley? I was thinking that by backing off the pre-load on the cables might have an effect on this. By the way, both cams are hitting the mod stops perfect. Thanks.

Just adjust your draw stop to effect your let-off and valley...the suggested spot is just a reference area to start off at...

Archery-Addiction
02-05-2008, 01:21 AM
You want the moveable stop to hit the limb, so it stops the stops on the mods form hitting the cables, but when you pull hard in to the valey they hit the cables.
If you are off by 1/8", and you are long. You may want to try and get the axle to axle back to 33" and see if it changes at all.

Marsh
02-05-2008, 08:07 AM
How do I go about shortening my A to A? Retwisting the string? It was untwisted for the peep. Thanks people!:bow:

Archery-Addiction
02-05-2008, 12:31 PM
How do I go about shortening my A to A? Retwisting the string? It was untwisted for the peep. Thanks people!:bow:

You lengthen or shorten the axle to axle by twisting or untwisting the cables. To shorten, twist up the cables a couple of tuns.

Takeum
02-05-2008, 01:48 PM
I thought by lengthening the strings, it lengthens the axle to axle,,, The cables are twisted to gain timing or retard timing for letoff,,??? You can also gain axle to axle by adding poundage by turning limbs down a bit at a time,, but not maxing the all the way down,,,

Marsh
02-05-2008, 07:16 PM
My bow is currently set at 71.5lbs bottomed out, if I add twists to the cables wont that increase draw weight? Thanks.

BenR
02-05-2008, 11:08 PM
I thought by lengthening the strings, it lengthens the axle to axle,,, The cables are twisted to gain timing or retard timing for letoff,,??? You can also gain axle to axle by adding poundage by turning limbs down a bit at a time,, but not maxing the all the way down,,,

Nope, the cables anchor the limbs so to speak...you adjust ATA with the cable.

Also yes shortening your cables will will increase weight. Your ATA is fine at they are not exact. Just adjust your draw stop and you will be fine...