Extreme XL speeds

[bowfreaknasty]

Guys......this bow really has my attention. I am really intrigued by the 8" ATA. I have never at all been a speed freak but, I am considering dropping to 60# limbs and would like to steal a little KE by buying a bow with a little extra spped. I shoot an AMO measured 29" draw and am curious what a guy could get out of an XL at 60 lbs and a 400 gr. shaft. Also, how smooth is the draw on these cams? I am assuming it is a little hash based on the fact they can generate that kind of speed out of a 36 ATA bow with a 8" BH.

[Elite_Kevin]

Bowfreaknasty,

I will shoot one tomorrow at the specs you requested and post the results for you.

The XL has the smoothest draw cycle of all the Elite bows, I think they all are reasonably smooth for the speed they produce, oh wait I'm probably biased.

[shootstraight]

Bowfreaknasty,



The XL has the smoothest draw cycle of all the Elite bows

Is this due to a different cam or because of the length?

[Michael]

I think all of the Elite bows are smooth drawing, but maybe I define smooth different than some. They don't have any "bumps" in the draw cycle, nor do they hav a harsh drop off into the valley.

[BAArcher]

I want to hear some shooter feedback..............A little bird mentioned shipping next week! We should hear something soon after that!

[TEXAS 10PT]

I think all of the Elite bows are smooth drawing, but maybe I define smooth different than some. They don't have any "bumps" in the draw cycle, nor do they hav a harsh drop off into the valley.

Michael...I couldn't have said it any better. Coming from a Mathews Switchback to a Synergy I felt it was somewhat stiffer but the bow drew straight back to the wall without bumps and the big hump that some bows have when you reach let off. The Trykon and Iron Mace were the worst at this in my opinion. Kevin is just one heck of a bow designer and the Elite's are a great result of his engineering ability.

Getting back to the XL. I think I've resigned myself to realize that I'm not going to get near the speed that my current 07 Synergy's get or the new XT and GTO but I'm diggin the 36" AtA and 8" BH and it will still be plenty fast enough.

TEXAS

[Elite_Kevin]

The smoother draw cycle comes from the length of the bow, the limb angles are machined about 6-8 degrees different than any other Elite model so the XL has less pre-load, subsequently changing how the limb deflects and stores the energy.

[Michael]

Michael...I couldn't have said it any better. Coming from a Mathews Switchback to a Synergy I felt it was somewhat stiffer but the bow drew straight back to the wall without bumps and the big hump that some bows have when you reach let off. The Trykon and Iron Mace were the worst at this in my opinion. Kevin is just one heck of a bow designer and the Elite's are a great result of his engineering ability.

TEXAS

Thank you. As an engineer, I have the utmost respect for Kevin. I tend to analyze things until my brain cramps, then I can't sleep because I am still thinking about it until I arrive at what I think is correct. I am not a "fanboy", so I defend my beliefs on my facts, and my statement was based on my results.

Sometimes I can't pinpoint things I like, but I sure can, and will, tell you what I don't like.

[BAArcher]

I too am really interested in an XL. To me, if I can shoot my target arrow (325 grains) at my 29" draw with a draw weight in the 60-62lb neighborhood and achieve 300fps...Thats fast enough for me.

Now give me a little more speed and that is a plus,.... Give me 8" of brace height and thats another plus.....This bow looks like a winner.

[L-train]

Check out the last post for specshttp://www.elitearchery.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110

[L-train]

Trying again...Check out the last post for specs

http://www.elitearchery.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110

[bowfreaknasty]

Thanks guys.

[Elite_Kevin]

Guys......this bow really has my attention. I am really intrigued by the 8" ATA. I have never at all been a speed freak but, I am considering dropping to 60# limbs and would like to steal a little KE by buying a bow with a little extra speed. I shoot an AMO measured 29" draw and am curious what a guy could get out of an XL at 60 lbs and a 400 gr. shaft. Also, how smooth is the draw on these cams? I am assuming it is a little hash based on the fact they can generate that kind of speed out of a 36 ATA bow with a 8" BH.

I set up a 60# 29" XL and with a 400 grain arrow the bow shot 282 fps.

[TEXAS 10PT]

I set up a 60# 29" XL and with a 400 grain arrow the bow shot 282 fps.

That's very good speed in my book. Anything over 280 at 60#/400gr is smokin

TEXAS

[bowfreaknasty]

I set up a 60# 29" XL and with a 400 grain arrow the bow shot 282 fps.


WOW!!! That is awesome. You have my attention? Which cams?

[Jerry/NJ]

I set up a 60# 29" XL and with a 400 grain arrow the bow shot 282 fps.

Hmmmm interesting.....so that bow is 7 fps faster than my Synergy XT but I have golf ball cat whiskers which may be losing some but on my other Synergy I gained 3 fps by putting them close to the cams so I am happy with that. :D

Here is what puzzles me, today I shot a 302 grain arrow at my 60.4# AT 29" AT 80% let off and got 310 fps. My BC shows 61.6 and 29", 300 gr., at 324 fps ....how am I 14 fps slower :confused: I can put a half turn in each limb bolt to bottom it out but I doubt it will make up 14 fps.

[bowfreaknasty]

Hmmmm interesting.....so that bow is 7 fps faster than my Synergy XT but I have golf ball cat whiskers which may be losing some but on my other Synergy I gained 3 fps by putting them close to the cams so I am happy with that. :D

Here is what puzzles me, today I shot a 302 grain arrow at my 60.4# AT 29" AT 80% let off and got 310 fps. My BC shows 61.6 and 29", 300 gr., at 324 fps ....how am I 14 fps slower :confused: I can put a half turn in each limb bolt to bottom it out but I doubt it will make up 14 fps.

Jerry,

That is why I posed the question on the other thread. Is it possible your chrony is off? Probably not but, maybe someone at Elite could answer your question?

If I can get 270s out of the Extreme XL( a bow with an 8" BH) with a 29" draw, 60# and 400 gr. arrow, I can't see me buying any other bow.

[Jerry/NJ]

Jerry,

That is why I posed the question on the other thread. Is it possible your chrony is off? Probably not but, maybe someone at Elite could answer your question?

If I can get 270s out of the Extreme XL( a bow with an 8" BH) with a 29" draw, 60# and 400 gr. arrow, I can't see me buying any other bow.

I dont see why you wont based on Kevin's report above.

On my bow I think it is the fact I changed from a 29" mod at unknown let off to a 28.5" mod at 29"AMO at 80% let off, the meta peep and loop add a small bit of loss. The link provided for speeds concurrs with my chrono. And Kevin shoots a 150# bow so he prolly overdraws the thing :D:D

[Clean Shot]

I think all of the Elite bows are smooth drawing, but maybe I define smooth different than some. They don't have any "bumps" in the draw cycle, nor do they hav a harsh drop off into the valley.

That is a very good way to describe it, I just picked up a Synergy XT yesturday. This thing is really a sweet shooter.